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Jacob's avatar

I need to get this out of my head so I can think of something else: a "generation ship" is a really, really, really bad idea. Not only for the practical reasons such as how to feed and clothe and keep alive generation upon generation of humans; nor the scaling problem of having a large enough population to avoid inbreeding; nor the psychological and political problems of still having a working society after all that time. There's also the ethical problem of the first generation of astronauts committing many generations of their descendants to a life that begins and ends on a ship, a choice that they had no say in and may well resent.

There is, in fact, a much more practical approach. Instead of sending expensive, fragile, ill-tempered humans, send eggs and sperm on board an entirely automated (and self-repairing) ship. We know they can be frozen and emerge viable, so it's not much of a leap to do so for the thousand years of a trip to the stars. We could send millions of sperm and eggs ensuring genetic diversity in a much smaller, cheaper ship, and have robots incubate, deliver, and raise the first generation of colonists. And because these children will be educated from a comprehensive library that came with them, you don't have the "cultural drift" inevitable in generations of shipboard life so that you don't risk colonizing the galaxy with literal Space Nazis.

BTW, I am currently writing a novel in which this brilliant idea goes horribly wrong, so if anybody wants to steal it, they have about eight months to get there first!

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Michael's avatar

Well! I AM a Philosopher and say an answer to this problem (whose literature is grossly inflated) is very simple and doesn't require improbable requirements. The Observor simply throws themself on the rails, derailing the train. A natural response to save one potential loss of life or five. Suicide? In a technical sense, yes, but imagine the scenario where you yourself see a grizzly chasing your child (or anybody's child for that matter). You wouldn't stop to ponder. You would immediately step in to divert the bear's charge. Now just substitute train for bear and derail for divert and the logic is apparent. Why doesn't anyone use this approach? Because the designers of the gedankenexperiment can alter the terms-putting the Observor in a remote viewing tower with a switch control at hand. So much for my solution! But it still operates in the grizzly gedanken at least. Actually the U S. are currently in a trolley problem dilemma with the populations of two countries bound on the rails.

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